Dimitris Sotiropoulos is a Greek sound engineer who has appeared on Sound Design Live in How To Use Plugins with an Analog Console And Wireless Control, How Much Do Live Sound Engineers Make?, and Sound Design Live Podcast Greatest Hits Volume 1. He is a good friend, a great engineer, and I really appreciate his views on business, audio, and life. In this post he describes the prerequisites for being a successful sound engineer and gives us a detailed look into how the ongoing economic crisis has affected his work.
Job Description
Working as an audio engineer is a life-long commitment. Money does come, but at a toll. Many engineers out there find it difficult to combine the profile of a hardworking sound guy with a great social dude, friend, and lover. So the question might be: The harder one works, is there more for him to earn, learn, or burn? The answer changes every day. Working at a mix console and working as a bank teller just aren’t the same. Enjoy at your own risk!
You need:
- Social Skills: Part of the trade is marketing yourself. What service are you offering to perspective clients? This is an important part of the job, along with the knowledge and experience to carry out any given project. Social skills are indeed essential to hooking up and connecting with people…um, sorry, I mean clients.
- Audio Awareness: Knowledge comes from research and experience. Knowing the dos and don’ts gives you a great starting advantage. Speaking into a 58 to fine tune a sound system isn’t a skill learned from karaoke and isn’t written in any book or blog. Reducing frequency masking in a mix isn’t a formula you learn, it requires personal experience that you develop through ultimate failure and successful attempts to make it sound great. Never forget to listen. Never forget to read. Don’t get too caught up in gear debates. It takes time away from the hands-on experience which is very important. Touching is always better than imagining (um….that didn’t sound right). We all know what a Fairchild comp does, it smooths the peaks and plays with the curves, but chances are only a few of us will ever get to touch one.
- Eclectic Experience: Throughout the last 15 years or so, I have done everything from performing, to making coffee, to building Dexion shelving, to soldering cables, to finally recording and mixing.
Times Have Changed In Greece
My point of view at the moment is impaired, due to the huge economic disaster that has stricken Greece over the past four years, with actual unemployment way above the officially-measured 27.4% today.
Once upon a time, I had several studio projectsg as an engineer at one of the main studios in Athens during the day (10:00-22:00), worked FOH at night clubs on weekdays (23:00-xx:xx), and spent my weekends around the country on tour. That was, of course, as much as a single person can endure in terms of time (sadly there are only 24 hours in a single day) and physical/mental exhaustion was common. I would sleep everywhere but my bed: couches, tour bus seats etc. That was my maximum. As a reference, if you divide, subtract, and multiply, it all averaged out to 350-400€/day, everyday, which was a solid amount of money to live off of in this small and blessed country. My rates could have been much higher, but you get paid what you negotiate. I’m good at what I do, according to some people, but I’m not good at negotiating, according to me.
Nice memories, but I don’t see these times coming back anytime soon. I am still committed to the work, but now must settle for much less.
The live work I take these days offers anywhere from 100€ το 400€ depending on how large the “pie” is to cut.
For the past three summers I have been mixing stage monitors for a well known Greek duo which currently pays 300€ per event (I was offered the job in 2011 for 400€), plus expenses, and involves making sure everything is set up as expected on stage, ringing out the monitors and side fills, sound checking the band without the artists, and finally running the show for two or so hours with everyone happily entertained. Pretty typical for this part of the world and a job I enjoy even though this summer the dates booked were very limited.
Most winter live gigs take place in bars or small cafes nowadays. They involve more work setting up, running cables, and doing both FOH and Monitors for 3-4 people, and are often a challenge. I usually expect sub-par equipment, faulty cables, and substantially less pay. The challenge to overcome problems and troubleshoot the setup is a rush, I can tell you that. (Negotiated fees can range anywhere from 100-250€ per event.)
I try to take any audio related project in this present time since we’ve been in free fall — the economy, that is — these past years. Here are some examples of summer projects:
- Renting out some of my studio equipment to setup a remote recording location in a country house for an album’s pre-production sessions. (Negotiated 1500€ fee.)
- Rewiring a studio, which reminded me how challenging it can be to get the normaling right on the patchbays, keep cable lengths to a minimum, and satisfy my OCD to have everything as neat as possible. It took me 10 days to get it up and running to minimum prerequisites. Then again, it was only me and a soldering iron. Then I need a week or so to wrap it up with no more downtime. (Negotiated 150€ per day.)
- Taking up a sound design project for a cosmetics company’s social media video campaign. (Negotiated 600€ fee.)
- Recording a three day festival in Athens as a backup recording engineer. Suntan lotion was not provided. (Negotiated 350€per day.)
Organizing and putting a complex stage plot and rider together for a concert on an island in the Ionian Sea with limited resources, programming four shows for both Avid Venue Consoles (FOH-Monitors) for the two acts at night on the boat trip there, and recording the first act via direct outs from the monitors console to my HD Rig (32ins). A nightmare of timing and organization. (Badly negotiated 300€ plus expenses.)
- Booking a week-long lockout recording session next month. (Negotiating 1500€.)
Times are tough in Greece. I find it hard to maintain good rates. Prices have gone down really fast. For example, a job that used to pay 150€ or 500€ now pays 100€ flat, take it or leave it. Most of the time it’s a tough decision to take low paying jobs because of what it does to rates. Then again, there is always gonna be someone out there who is willing to do the job cheaper. When I offer my “crisis struck” discounted rates at 250-300€/gig for larger events, there is always someone willing to do it up for 80€. Intense competition powered by poverty is driving down both quality and prices. Although work just feels like survival some days, sound engineering is what I do, and I try to do my best every time.
Well said, and to the point. I just have to say that the writer is still one of the lucky ones. Myself, working as a sound engineer mainly in small and medium venues, or producing non-mainstream artists in the studio, I have a hard time earning even a portion of the money my compatriot makes. In fact, during the past 3 years, although I saw my skills, experience and connections grow rapidly, my income has been reduced to less than half!
Sure, I see that Dimitris may be more experienced, better connected, or just… longer time in the business. But on the other hand, there are also even bigger “names” that have run out of business during the last 4-5 years. Talking about “obstacles” we are trying to overcome!
Yikes! That’s rough. I don’t know what I would do in that situation. I guess I would think about moving, but I know it can take years to build up enough work to live on in a new city.
Hi there, Dimitris!
My name is Laurentiu Morun, from Timisoara, Romania.
Could i bother you with more then a few questions about the live music scene in Greece. I am myself a soundengineer, working numerous gigs and festivals (the most notorious being the Garana International Jazz Festival, where i`m doing the monitors).
I`m asking because there is a small plan in the back of my head to move to Greece. I love your country, i love the lands and the sea.
If you can spare 15-20 minutes, i would love to call you, or to exchange emails.
Efharistou!